Thierry‘S USA branch

I’m ashamed to say that I paid 150 for an Aunan cutting with like a million nodes. I grafted it about 4 different ways and rooted what was left. All the grafts failed, I regrafted the smallest of small pieces that I would have never have imagined would have worked in a makeshift cleft graft because it was still green. It’s got a green bud pushing now so there is still hope! Needless to say I won’t graft things at the end of September again.
 
hambones said:
The running joke with that whole show is that the figs were"imported" in a "totally legal" fashion over the course of many years. Once importing things got tough here is the US, they asked the people that bought them in years past to send cuttings so they could be propagated here. This process provided legal immunity ("these are totally legal US cuttings").

I respect Thierry and what he has done for figs, but I have my doubts about what the people he has entrusted his reputation to have done here in the states. They slander highly reputable sellers (is there anyone with a better reputation that fruitnut?) and swear that fake varieties are being sold everywhere without any evidence and then insist they want fair prices for the 'common man' while charging exorbitant prices. Is $60 a cutting affordable for most of us? Hundreds for a treepot?

The real kicker is that Thierry himself has been unable to sell cuttings via his EU website for a couple of years because the new owner of the "other" forum filed a trademark dispute in both the US and EU against Thierry for his own trade name. The EU courts shut his website down while that case percolates through the courts. I mentioned it on the other forum my post was deleted by the moderators. That's all I needed to know before finding this wonderful place.
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Holy ... I didn't know about the trademark thing. That ... is despicable!! Why on earth would they try to dispute it in EU with Thierry?
 
A word of caution to those buying from the EU, I would make sure whoever you share with remains unnamed also. The plant gestapo have been known to show up unannounced when fig cuttings are illegally imported from other websites or purchasing platforms. I don’t know the legality and I’m not a lawyer but I’m avoiding anything sourced from outside the USA for a reason. I don’t want to know the original source as long as my source was the states 😂

Keeping less loose ends to tie up is better 😉
 
Bofig said:
A word of caution to those buying from the EU, I would make sure whoever you share with remains unnamed also. The plant gestapo have been known to show up unannounced when fig cuttings are illegally imported from other websites or purchasing platforms. I don’t know the legality and I’m not a lawyer but I’m avoiding anything sourced from outside the USA for a reason. I don’t want to know the original source as long as my source was the states 😂

Keeping less loose ends to tie up is better 😉
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Theres import laws for plant material. It can be done legally but it varies country to country and requires inspection. Definatley dont just buy from your friend in another country youre setting yourself up for a headache. This is also true for some states, like california has some particularly tough import laws for plants. Texas doesnt allow any non texas bred citrus at all.
 
snarfing said:
Theres import laws for plant material. It can be done legally but it varies country to country and requires inspection. Definatley dont just buy from your friend in another country youre setting yourself up for a headache. This is also true for some states, like california has some particularly tough import laws for plants. Texas doesnt allow any non texas bred citrus at all.
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Figs with no soil have almost zero restrictions in any state besides a nursery license. California just needs a pre notification. With soil for my plants originating in Iowa, I just have to treat for Japanese beetle and use soilless media for western states and no treatment for anywhere else. Citrus are super strict due to disease. From my understanding there isn’t any importing of figs legally currently but there was at one time. Maybe they have relaxed a bit and now allow with proper phytosanitary license but that may be hundreds for a few cuttings if you want to do it properly.
 
Bofig said:
A word of caution to those buying from the EU, I would make sure whoever you share with remains unnamed also. The plant gestapo have been known to show up unannounced when fig cuttings are illegally imported from other websites or purchasing platforms. I don’t know the legality and I’m not a lawyer but I’m avoiding anything sourced from outside the USA for a reason. I don’t want to know the original source as long as my source was the states 😂

Keeping less loose ends to tie up is better 😉
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Loose lips sink fig trees 😜
 
Bofig said:
Figs with no soil have almost zero restrictions in any state besides a nursery license. California just needs a pre notification. With soil for my plants originating in Iowa, I just have to treat for Japanese beetle and use soilless media for western states and no treatment for anywhere else. Citrus are super strict due to disease. From my understanding there isn’t any importing of figs legally currently but there was at one time. Maybe they have relaxed a bit and now allow with proper phytosanitary license but that may be hundreds for a few cuttings if you want to do it properly.
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I'm not familiar with all 50 states for with soil, yes I should say cuttings to my knowledge for figs are ok everywhere, but plants generally ahve different restrictions and you should look into it.

I am getting a bare root peach imported from china this winter and holy moly the headache to do it legally. Worth it because im a fancy plant geek and china has some excellent peach varieties (they did get domesticated there)
 
snarfing said:
I'm not familiar with all 50 states for with soil, yes I should say cuttings to my knowledge for figs are ok everywhere, but plants generally ahve different restrictions and you should look into it.

I am getting a bare root peach imported from china this winter and holy moly the headache to do it legally. Worth it because im a fancy plant geek and china has some excellent peach varieties (they did get domesticated there)
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Here’s the link, everything is based on originating state. I keep this open in a tab for the last two years and refer to it anytime I ship soil. I had my plants inspector verify states like Alaska, Arizona, or California to make sure I’m following the law.

www.nationalplantboard.org

State Law & Regulation Summaries

The U.S. Department of Agriculture, Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service, Plant Protection and Quarantine Program (USDA APHIS PPQ) and the plant regulatory agencies within the state,...
www.nationalplantboard.org
 
Bofig said:
Here’s the link, everything is based on originating state. I keep this open in a tab for the last two years and refer to it anytime I ship soil. I had my plants inspector verify states like Alaska, Arizona, or California to make sure I’m following the law.

www.nationalplantboard.org

State Law & Regulation Summaries

The U.S. Department of Agriculture, Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service, Plant Protection and Quarantine Program (USDA APHIS PPQ) and the plant regulatory agencies within the state,...
www.nationalplantboard.org
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Does the inspector charge per visit before you ship the plant? Or they just do the annual inspection to make sure you follow the protocol for any local pests/diseases?
 
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