Looking for pawpaw and persimmon starts

If you happen to have American, Asian, or grafted hybrid in particular persimmon trees for sale, I am looking to buy.
 
If anyone has known or unknown cultivators of pawpaw and persimmon started trees that they'd like to trade. I have some fig trees and fig cuttings and will have apple scions available to trade.
I'm curious. How did your search go for the persimmon trees? I went to Cliff England's open house a few weeks ago and had a blast. And now I think I'm obsessed with persimmons (and pawpaw, and che, and asian pears... :p) He has so many types of trees and different varieties of each...it is hard to choose. Many of the persimmons were ripe, so the timing was good to try many different ones.

Did you end up choosing some different varieties of persimmons?
 
I am cleaning some native persimmon seed to start soon. I am just about to start scarification. I can share, if you wanna try starting them.

They are from a tree I used to deer hunt under as a kid on my Dad's place. The wildlife love them, but I'm starting them as rootstock.

I also have some saplings on order, but they won't come until sometime in the spring.
What is your process of scarification and stratification for your persimmon seeds? I decided I would try to growing some trees from some wild persimmons a friend gave me. Why not? All I did for prep was wash them and peeled off the slimy coating and then stuck them in the fridge in a baggie with a wet paper towel. Should I be doing anything else?
 
I missed this year’s window to buy persimmon trees. I have been talking to a few expert persimmon growers -members of Persimmon World on Facebook- and watching YouTube videos… long story short, these are the cultivars that would grow and ripen in MA Z6a:
Kasandra, JT02, Zima Khurma, Sofia gift, but will not be available until June of next year (Nikita Gift will need some protection).
@SpiritFarmVa I am considering Tam Kam to grow in a large container.

I will also add Kyung Ban Si is also hardy in 6b and grows into a beautiful, carefree tree.
 
@DCallahan don't know if you sourced these yet or not, but if not, @AAAJacks and I have some we can share.

They are in 4" x 9", I could bareroot them and send you 6-8 of each. Would that work?

They aren't really dormant yet, the state programs usually ship in spring (like late Feb-Mar) so I would think that would be the best time.
 
I'm curious. How did your search go for the persimmon trees? I went to Cliff England's open house a few weeks ago and had a blast. And now I think I'm obsessed with persimmons (and pawpaw, and che, and asian pears... :p) He has so many types of trees and different varieties of each...it is hard to choose. Many of the persimmons were ripe, so the timing was good to try many different ones.

Did you end up choosing some different varieties of persimmons?
How far are you from Cliff's place? What were your big takeaways from his open house?
 
How far are you from Cliff's place? What were your big takeaways from his open house?
Cliff England's place is about 2 hours away. They open house was great. This was my first year and it was a bit overwhelming. There is so much going on and so many different fruit trees and varieties. It felt like this first year was a good introduction. Now I feel more prepared after going to one. I think I can be more focused next time. Due to the timing and the weather this year, the main fruit that was ripe were the persimmons, the jujubes, the che fruit...so that is what was available to sample. I think it can vary year to year, but I think by the time the open house happens, the pawpaws are already done fruiting. I could be wrong, but it just seems late for pawpaw. I think some years there may still be asian pears that are ripe, although this year those were done fruiting as well. Cliff has so many varieties of every type of fruit he grows, it is like a treasure house! Also, Cliff and his family are wonderful people. He is very willing to share what he has learned over the years and it was great just hearing him talk about the different varieties and he answered questions from anyone who wanted to ask. Anyway, that is a long winded answer, but I think it is very worthwhile to go, especially if you are interested in the types of fruit he grows.
 
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