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[Figgin' A]

That's a perfect looking tomato plant! Wow!

I agree with you 100% that an indoor tomato is no competition for one grown in controlled conditions. For me it's a matter of anything, in any way better than grocery store crap. Maybe not outstanding... but even a but better, tomato-shaped cardboard.

The other issue for me is totally personal. If I'm not mistaken, Tumbler is an "owned" hybrid. I come come from a homestead culture of peasants saving seed... so perhaps I'm a caveman... I'm ok with that. I don't claim to be sophisticated. I've just become increasingly concerned with growing seed to which some private party has ownership.... and I can't keep or grow without permission under license. Maybe I'm weird about that part.... or maybe I don't really understand it.... Just... every modern wisdom seems to insit I abandon heirloom to the benefit of something out of community control

Yeah, I hear you. I am not thrilled about that myself; 95% of what I grow are heirlooms, but there are a few hybrids that I really like - like Tumbler, Sunchocola, Mountain Magic, and Clementine. I haven't found heirloom cocktail size tomatoes to outperform these. I've grown over 200 tomato varieties, by the way... maybe even more than 250.

 

[TorontoJoe]

Yeah, I hear you. I am not thrilled about that myself; 95% of what I grow are heirlooms, but there are a few hybrids that I really like - like Tumbler, Sunchocola, Mountain Magic, and Clementine. I haven't found heirloom cocktail size tomatoes to outperform these. I've grown over 200 tomato varieties, by the way... maybe even more than 250.

Do you know any other tomatoes that maintain a very compact plant with closer to normal sized tomatoes? I'm always looking for good candidates for my indoor tomato adventures.

 

[superdave336]

Do you know any other tomatoes that maintain a very compact plant with closer to normal sized tomatoes? I'm always looking for good candidates for my indoor tomato adventures.

You need to talk with @Bofig that’s what he has been working on.

 

[Bofig]

You need to talk with @Bofig that’s what he has been working on.

Yeah it’s been fun lol
@TorontoJoe you should check out The Dwarf Tomato Project, they’ve released hundreds of varieties that grow 2-4 feet tall and then there is the world of micro/mini dwarf tomatoes. Micros are anything below 12 inches and mini are 12-24 inches. I’ve crossed a few varieties and hoping to make some new varieties of micros but it’s a bit of a process. I believe they should have dwarf tomato project varieties in Canada as they did world wide testing from what I understand.

 

[superdave336]

Yeah it’s been fun lol
@TorontoJoe you should check out The Dwarf Tomato Project, they’ve released hundreds of varieties that grow 2-4 feet tall and then there is the world of micro/mini dwarf tomatoes. Micros are anything below 12 inches and mini are 12-24 inches. I’ve crossed a few varieties and hoping to make some new varieties of micros but it’s a bit of a process. I believe they should have dwarf tomato project varieties in Canada as they did world wide testing from what I understand.

Yes i believe Craig LeHoullier worked internationally on the dwarf tomato project.

 

[TorontoJoe]

Yeah it’s been fun lol
@TorontoJoe you should check out The Dwarf Tomato Project, they’ve released hundreds of varieties that grow 2-4 feet tall and then there is the world of micro/mini dwarf tomatoes. Micros are anything below 12 inches and mini are 12-24 inches. I’ve crossed a few varieties and hoping to make some new varieties of micros but it’s a bit of a process. I believe they should have dwarf tomato project varieties in Canada as they did world wide testing from what I understand.

I'm actually familiar with the dwarf tomato project. I tried a few from Victory Seeds. Of the ones I tried, Tartufo and Heartbreaker were the closest so far to what I'm going for. Tartufo probably being the better tasting of the two. Heartbreaker was quite good but a bit more like a pasting tomato.

I was eyeing this other one not listed there called Dwarf Mongolian. It apparently matures to only 15-25 cm tall (6-10 inches) but produces fruit up to generally 70-110 grams and sometimes up to 200 grams. I'm trying to find in in North America

 

[Bofig]

I'm actually familiar with the dwarf tomato project. I tried a few from Victory Seeds. Of the ones I tried, Tartufo and Heartbreaker were the closest so far to what I'm going for. Tartufo probably being the better tasting of the two. Heartbreaker was quite good but a bit more like a pasting tomato.

I was eyeing this other one not listed there called Dwarf Mongolian. It apparently matures to only 15-25 cm tall (6-10 inches) but produces fruit up to generally 70-110 grams and sometimes up to 200 grams. I'm trying to find in in North America

Yeah many of the smallest are cherry tomato sized. A lot of the dwarf tomato project are slicer or saladette size. Their goal was full sized fruit with small plants. Almost all the micros I’ve had are cherry sized fruit except one called tiny totem which had ping pong to golf ball sized.

 

[Smokymist]

Those are beautiful carrots. I still have some various greens and swiss chard going, and onions...not much though. I tried some new Japanese Giant greens this year, so far they aren't giant, but they're pretty.

 

[snarfing]

Do you know any other tomatoes that maintain a very compact plant with closer to normal sized tomatoes? I'm always looking for good candidates for my indoor tomato adventures.

define very compact? Tasmanian chocolate is pretty small for a slicer.

 

[TorontoJoe]

define very compact? Tasmanian chocolate is pretty small for a slicer.

The Tartufo that I referred to... None of the plants grew more than say, 50cm tall (18 ish inches)... and maybe 2/3 as wide... the tomatoes were up to maybe golfball size.. that part I'd like to increase