BucksCountyFigs
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Are you concerned about get animals digging to get at the crushed raw crab bodies?
Here we can’t even use blood meal, as the scent makes raccoons, cats, rodents, etc. go nuts and dig it up.
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Here we can’t even use blood meal, as the scent makes raccoons, cats, rodents, etc. go nuts and dig it up.
betdempster
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That's a great article. I wondered why some cutting I get have wide spacing and others of the same variety are closer. As much as I'd like that really fast growth it seems like it's worth the wait to get balanced growth. This was very timely for me. I have egg shells in the sink from boiled eggs this morning and was wondering if I could do anything with them. I'm glad I didn't though them out
Inflorescence
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I actually just wrote an entire article about it that you can read here if you want more info on the process: KNF Fermented Plant Juice
But in a nutshell, I use almost anything that grows in my yard. It depends on what usage I want for it.
For figs specifically, I use fig fruits at all stages of growth, espcially if I have some I don’t enjoy the taste of for whatever reason. I’ve used an FPJ adjacent type ferment of about finger thick fig roots that made an excellent cutting soak for rooting. (This one requires an adjustment to the usual method though.) You can use fresh fig leaves as well, but that’s harder if you don’t want to sacrifice them.
I use any weed that grows in my yard, except for poisonous ones or nightshade type. This can be used on any plant, including figs. Mugwort is a great one! Nettle, dandelion, comfrey, so many others are good for it. The one I just made is from fresh tumbleweed. Generally you want the newest growth and cut the tips for FPJ, but you can use the whole plant as well.
For my vegetable garden, I use tomatoes in FFJ to make a seed soak and to fertilize tomato seed starts during the winter. Same with melons, peppers, squash, greens, berries, whatever you grow that is fresh. Typically, you want to use tomatoes and pepper FFJ on their own kind, same with citrus and grapes. But the others can be used on most plants.
You can do it with fresh from your garden root vegetables as well, such as beets or carrots, but you need to chop them up very small, almost pulverize them. Some feel that ferments made from roots benefit the roots on your plant.
You can make FPJ with seaweed or fresh water plants/weeds as well.
*Never use anything store bought for FPJ/FFJ.*
You can also do it by plant quality that you want to confer over to the plants you are growing. For example, I live in a dry, drought area. So I look for plants that thrive naturally in that situation and make FPJ (or JLF) out of them for my plants that aren’t adapting as well to the dryness here. Same with winter hardy plants. It’s not that they magically can then tolerate those same circumstances in the same way. But they can share the native microbes, enzymes, and nutrients that help with those characteristics.
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I wasn’t quite sure what type of info you were wanting. The other ingredient is brown sugar.Edited to add: I forgot aloe! I’ll be making an FPJ out of aloe as soon as the rainy weather stops here so I can gather it. I’ll use this on rooting cuttings as well.
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NYC_Fignetic
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i hear just using the aloe plant juices itself is good for rooting cuttings. never tried it.. I tried to make Jadam liquid fertilizer but after a year plus it still stinks up the whole back yard when i use it. with FPJ and FFJ you use it as a foliage spray ? do you add any other fertilizers when watering fig trees or your veggies ?I actually just wrote an entire article about it that you can read here if you want more info on the process: KNF Fermented Plant Juice
But in a nutshell, I use almost anything that grows in my yard. It depends on what usage I want for it.
For figs specifically, I use fig fruits at all stages of growth, espcially if I have some I don’t enjoy the taste of for whatever reason. I’ve used an FPJ adjacent type ferment of about finger thick fig roots that made an excellent cutting soak for rooting. (This one requires an adjustment to the usual method though.) You can use fresh fig leaves as well, but that’s harder if you don’t want to sacrifice them.
I use any weed that grows in my yard, except for poisonous ones or nightshade type. This can be used on any plant, including figs. Mugwort is a great one! Nettle, dandelion, comfrey, so many others are good for it. The one I just made is from fresh tumbleweed. Generally you want the newest growth and cut the tips for FPJ, but you can use the whole plant as well.
For my vegetable garden, I use tomatoes in FFJ to make a seed soak and to fertilize tomato seed starts during the winter. Same with melons, peppers, squash, greens, berries, whatever you grow that is fresh. Typically, you want to use tomatoes and pepper FFJ on their own kind, same with citrus and grapes. But the others can be used on most plants.
You can do it with fresh from your garden root vegetables as well, such as beets or carrots, but you need to chop them up very small, almost pulverize them. Some feel that ferments made from roots benefit the roots on your plant.
You can make FPJ with seaweed or fresh water plants/weeds as well.
*Never use anything store bought for FPJ/FFJ.*
You can also do it by plant quality that you want to confer over to the plants you are growing. For example, I live in a dry, drought area. So I look for plants that thrive naturally in that situation and make FPJ (or JLF) out of them for my plants that aren’t adapting as well to the dryness here. Same with winter hardy plants. It’s not that they magically can then tolerate those same circumstances in the same way. But they can share the native microbes, enzymes, and nutrients that help with those characteristics.
Did that answer your question?
Edited to add: I forgot aloe! I’ll be making an FPJ out of aloe as soon as the rainy weather stops here so I can gather it. I’ll use this on rooting cuttings as well.
Inflorescence
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Yes, aloe juice is great on its own as well. It is full of enzymes and good things. The FPJ is just to bring another element to it and to have a shelf stable ready to use concentrated source of it.
Yes, I use FPJ or FFJ both for watering the roots or for foliar sprays. They work for both applications. I do like them in foliar sprays because they don’t stink. I can’t stop the wind from blowing foliar sprays in my face at some point whenever I use them, so I try to keep them as non-stinky (and non-blinding) as possible.
I love KNF fish amino acids. It is so worth it if you can get your hands on some fresh fish. I also wrote an article about that, but there are lots of YouTube videos for it as well. (Not trying to plug myself, but I’ll link it just the same since the info is there. This article here.)
Otherwise you can use fish hydrolysate as an alternative.
I also love seaweed, fulvic acid, molasses, and anything calcium for figs.
superdave336
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NYC_Fignetic
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oh yea for sure i am i think 1.5 months in on my KNF FAA.. it should be ready beginning of april. watched, good write ups.
NYC_Fignetic
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Inflorescence
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The JADAM liquid fertilizer, you can try adding hardwood charcoal or biochar to it to reduce the odor. Rock dusts can also help with odor, like Azomite, basalt, or glacial rock dust.
I am surprised it stinks so much after a year… did you by chance add any animal products to it, like meat? Anything with meat can sit for even two years to age.
You can also try using it at a higher dilution, if it’s really watered down, it shouldn’t smell much at all.
I have lots of wildlife in the area. Occasionally, a bird or other small animal may pull a few of the crab bodies out of the pots, but I just place them back. Once dried, animals don’t bother with the shells.
NYC_Fignetic
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no meats oils or anything just comfrey and fresh grass cuttings in one and the other has just fruits, banana, figs, and pumpkin. the FFJ i did add some rabbit poop
Inflorescence
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Comfrey can be quite stinky, it has a reputation for that. Apparently, things high in nitrogen have a stinkier smell than other things. It probably is a fantastic JLF, perfect for early spring growth. But, well… what can you do? The smell is not for everyone. I bet it will lessen this next year, but it will always have a certain amount of odor by the nature of it.no meats oils or anything just comfrey and fresh grass cuttings in one and the other has just fruits, banana, figs, and pumpkin. the FFJ i did add some rabbit poop
Another winter project. But FAA looks to be worth the effort. With all the fishing I do, I'm going to have to buy Costco out of their brown sugar supply.
