common figs vs common figs

The problem with fruit trees is.
If it can be done. It will take your family to do it over lifetimes.
Veggie's seed to fruit in one season. My citrus takes average 5 to 8 years seed to fruit.
You could speed that up by grafting seedlings to older trees. But I don't think you could acheive that in a liftime
 
SpiritFarmVa said:
I don’t know enough about fruit tree pollination to fully understand. But it has crossed my mind why couldn’t you create say F1 apple tree seeds repeatedly.
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Some fruits are more true to type from seed than others. Peach, plum, apricots are more true to the parent. But apples and cherries can be quite different from the parents. It depends on if something is self-pollinating for how true it will be. Anything that received cross-pollination will not be true. Most apples require cross-pollination which is why seeds can produce something very different.

Many commercial orchards don’t use a desirable variety for cross-pollinating apples, so you can get undesireable results from apple seeds from store apples.
 
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Inflorescence said:
Some fruits are more true to type from seed than others. Peach, plum, apricots are more true to the parent. But apples and cherries can be quite different from the parents. It depends on if something is self-pollinating for how true it will be. Anything that received cross-pollination will not be true. Most apples require cross-pollination which is why seeds can produce something very different.

Many commercial orchards don’t use a desirable variety for crossbreeding apples, so you can get undesireable results from apple seeds from store apples.
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I have no experience personally but it has been said that pawpaw's are "similar" to parents.
 
Inflorescence said:
Some fruits are more true to type from seed than others. Peach, plum, apricots are more true to the parent. But apples and cherries can be quite different from the parents. It depends on if something is self-pollinating for how true it will be. Anything that received cross-pollination will not be true. Most apples require cross-pollination which is why seeds can produce something very different.

Many commercial orchards don’t use a desirable variety for cross-pollinating apples, so you can get undesireable results from apple seeds from store apples.
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That I understand about fruit tress. But what I’m not sure about is if I hand pollinate a Fuji with a gala and grow out the seeds. Then the same the next year. I am not sure the results are repeatable. I think each pollination arranges dna differently. That’s what I’m not certain about. In veggies, you can pollinate one parent to another each year and get a repeatable F1 seedling. What I don’t know is how that works for perennial fruiting trees.
 
SpiritFarmVa said:
That I understand about fruit tress. But what I’m not sure about is if I hand pollinate a Fuji with a gala and grow out the seeds. Then the same the next year. I am not sure the results are repeatable. I think each pollination arranges dna differently. That’s what I’m not certain about. In veggies, you can pollinate one parent to another each year and get a repeatable F1 seedling. What I don’t know is how that works for perennial fruiting trees.
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I asked about this once when inquiring about growing a dwarf honey crisp apple. I was told it needed a separate pollinator but that it could be any other apple.... There's a lot of crabapple around me and I asked... and was told that crabapple would pollenate the tree.... No idea if this is true...
 
SpiritFarmVa said:
That I understand about fruit tress. But what I’m not sure about is if I hand pollinate a Fuji with a gala and grow out the seeds. Then the same the next year. I am not sure the results are repeatable. I think each pollination arranges dna differently. That’s what I’m not certain about. In veggies, you can pollinate one parent to another each year and get a repeatable F1 seedling. What I don’t know is how that works for perennial fruiting trees.
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Yes, with fruit trees, especially apples, it is different. It is more like with humans. You can have the same two people as parents but their offspring can look quite different from each other or quite similar. It just depends on what is dominant and how the genetics are arranging. But even there with fruit, you aren’t going to get identical twins so to speak. Every seed will be different.
 
Inflorescence said:
Yes, with fruit trees, especially apples, it is different. It is more like with humans. You can have the same two people as parents but their offspring can look quite different from each other or quite similar. It just depends on what is dominant and how the genetics are arranging. But even there with fruit, you aren’t going to get identical twins so to speak. Every seed will be different.
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That’s what I thought. Just want certain.
 
TorontoJoe said:
I asked about this once when inquiring about growing a dwarf honey crisp apple. I was told it needed a separate pollinator but that it could be any other apple.... There's a lot of crabapple around me and I asked... and was told that crabapple would pollenate the tree.... No idea if this is true...
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Yes commercial Apple orchards regularly have dedicated crab apples throughout the orchard for their prolific long bloom period to assist in pollination.
 
TorontoJoe said:
I asked about this once when inquiring about growing a dwarf honey crisp apple. I was told it needed a separate pollinator but that it could be any other apple.... There's a lot of crabapple around me and I asked... and was told that crabapple would pollenate the tree.... No idea if this is true...
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Crabapples are definitely great pollinators.
 
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