Caprification history.

@"Rob"#54 
That was a wonderful history, and a wonderful thread thank you so much for posting it. I've read it twice now but unfortunately my degrading eyesight makes many of the excerpts impossible to read now. LOL @"GoodFriendMike"#9 I am determined to learn more about Capri figs, and caprification. Hope my high level of ignorance doesn't make you reach through the phone, and try to strangle me.  Applause  :D it's wonderful to see what you guys are accomplishing together in this Capri fig forum section.
 
@"Figless"#18 I am happy that you and others are taking interest in them. I started out knowing nothing about them. And I look back at that time when members here and other places ask question's. Instead of not answering or getting irritated about answering the same questions over again. I am happy to answer them. If I can. That is how we help others. That is how we learn.  :)
 
GoodFriendMike said:
@"Figless"#18 I am happy that you and others are taking interest in them. I started out knowing nothing about them. And I look back at that time when members here and other places ask question's. Instead of not answering or getting irritated about answering the same questions over again. I am happy to answer them. If I can. That is how we help others. That is how we learn.  :)
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Mike, I totally agree with all you have written here, I think the whole Caprification/wasp topic has been ignored for far too long, and there is way too much incorrect and misleading information out there. With the questions, you may remember that I had plenty not so long ago? I now find questions beneficial to my existing knowledge, and at times, even before I answer, I delve into some  of the old Condit/Roedings written works, or even the much more recent papers written, and almost every time, I uncover a new small piece of info. to add, so the time is rarely wasted, and others are learning along the way. As long as we keep learning, we are all doing well.
 
I remember very well. I sent so many pdf's for you to read. Plus giving you my opinion on certain things. Now sometimes I feel I should be asking you questions. I believe you have surpassed me in some area's. Which I love. No one person can learn everything. So it is great when many come together to learn and teach. :)
 
GoodFriendMike said:
I remember very well. I sent so many pdf's for you to read. Plus giving you my opinion on certain things. Now sometimes I feel I should be asking you questions. I believe you have surpassed me in some area's. Which I love. No one person can learn everything. So it is great when many come together to learn and teach. :)
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Good to hear Mike, and you will probably remember the 2 Caprifig trees I found on the same day and posted pictures of?  The first one was ripped out a few months later, and the second was cut to the ground recently, but the stump remains, and if it is not poisoned, it may still grow. Things can change pretty quickly with figs.

With  the pdf's, I remember your kindness there well too, you offered them, and I was keen to take you up on them all, and I thank you for it, it helped a lot.

With the learning, it took me a while to properly understand how the Caprification process really worked, the part that had me for a while was the months that the wasp spent in the winter crop, once I tested it out though, I was fine.

Mike, I think we have both come a long way, but possibly in slightly differing directions, you with all of your named  persistent, and not persistent types, and me with just finding many new unknown Caprifig trees, and taking a mountain of photos to come to terms with the difference in the details of so many of them, and it has been a real eye opener.

The most important thing is, we are making headway, and learning, and passing it on to anyone interested, so it has to be a good thing for us all, I hope it never changes. We need to find more people with the similar interest.
 
@"Rob"#54 I do remember those trees. And I find it sad that one was ripped out and the other cut down. I hope the one that was cut down grows back. I hear many stories from California that are just like that. But Cali. considers figs an invasive species. As far as you and me. We both went different direction's with the hobby. If we can even still call it a hobby now. Maybe it is more of an obsession??? Like you say in your signature.  But what ever it is. I do not see either of us changing anytime soon. Which is a great thing. The more we learn the more others will. And maybe I can save a few trees along the way. I have a couple whose mother tree's where removed. :)
 
Sayabo said:
TorontoJoe said:
Sayabo said:
I continue to learn about Caprifig from @GoodFriendMike and @Rob. And I'm so grateful to have met you. :)
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Some things it seems they can explain for me…. But unfortunately they cannot understand it for me. :)
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Thant's a mysterious world, isn't it? :D
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For me, there is a big difference between reading it, and actually seeing it for myself, and for more than just one season. The best part is actually finding the trees, monitoring them, and getting to know and understand each one, because they are all different, just like people. The more I learn about the trees, the more I reread the old and new papers, the more the information all comes together, and the obvious errors the writers made stand out. Many blanket statements like 'Caprifigs are inedible', 'Mammoni figs rarely have viable seeds', over pollination is a real problem', etc, it's wrong, they are possibilities at times, like over watering. Some sandy soil will never have an issue with over watering, but heavy clay, is completely different. No one but yourself can know how often to water your trees, with your soil and climate, and no book can know.
 
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