Oops Sorry @Fig Gazer I just meant that my ((unshakable conviction)) that YN WB , and 505H Woodall wind up being the same was given some very very very very very small room for doubt. Now that @DCallahan [/USER] has added his observation of the thickening stem, and you yourself mentioned you use no supplemental fertilizer I am now 《((back))》 fully embedded in my former beliefs. What a difference A Day Makes, just 24 little hours.