GxY

TorontoJoe said:
Approximately how much sooner can one expect a pollinated fig to ripen vs one that’s not?
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I saw 2-6 weeks, seems the latest varieties benefited the most. Black cross was one that ripened in early/mid September with pollen but after that nothing else ripened on the tree even by the end of October in storage. I was eating lsu Scott’s black mid August with pollen as well in Iowa without any head start.
 
Bofig said:
I saw 2-6 weeks, seems the latest varieties benefited the most. Black cross was one that ripened in early/mid September with pollen but after that nothing else ripened on the tree even by the end of October in storage. I was eating lsu Scott’s black mid August with pollen as well in Iowa without any head start.
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That’s huge! I really need to get my hands on some pollen
 
TorontoJoe said:
That’s huge! I really need to get my hands on some pollen
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For sure, I hope I can reproduce the same results this season with our late start. Many varieties were only in the 2-3 week range of speed up. I tried to pollinate the mid branch and some set later were ripening before the earlier set fruits so most of the fruit ripened at the same time. The flavors were much better as well but splitting became a problem when nights got cold due to thicker skin not stretching as easy from the cool weather in my opinion.
 
GoodFriendMike said:
I have had them ripen a week to two weeks earlier than non-pollinated figs. I think @Bofig has seen them ripen even earlier than that. Could be to do with climate difference’s.
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I guess now I just need to squeeze some figs out of this GXY early enough to use the pollen.

Unless anyone wants to mail me an envelope full of a mysterious powdery substance? What could possibly go wrong with that? 🙄
 
I injected a lot of figs with that pollen. It seemed like there was plenty from that one fig. Hopefully it works. Here is a pic of that GxY fig before I cut it open. It's the one in the front with two Beers Black breba behind it.

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I don't know if it's normal to have main crop caprified figs ripening this early. I pollinated a lot of figs. A few have ripened already but some of them don't look right. I picked these two today. Dr Gowaty and Violeta. The Violeta is small and doesn't look normal and didn't taste very good. The Dr Gowaty was very good.

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ETXfigs said:
I don't know if it's normal to have main crop caprified figs ripening this early. I pollinated a lot of figs. A few have ripened already but some of them don't look right. I picked these two today. Dr Gowaty and Violeta. The Violeta is small and doesn't look normal and didn't taste very good. The Dr Gowaty was very good.

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Pollen will ripen them earlier. The violeta "didn't taste good"
Like the fig went bad?
If so. Could be many of things. From bad pollen (I would rule that out, since you used all the same pollen)
to dirty syringe (wipe down between injections if it happens again. see if that helps)
Do you have SWD? And last I can think of right now. Sometimes the water we inject is not clean, which is why I use bottle water and sometimes but not often. The water does not seem to be "absorbed" and seems to rot the fig.
From the photo. It just does not look ripe. Hope the rest of them look and taste better.
 
DCallahan said:
So can we take in now that GxY is persistent? Was it determined to be so before?
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I truly believe this one is to be found persistent. The profichi are definitely persistent and produce a good bit of pollen.
I updated the variety thread to very possible awhile back. Hope to see my own tree or a members tree ripen a main crop this season so
the "very possible" can become is persistent. Good tree. :)
GoodFriendMike

Thread 'GXY / Yanonali (Cpp? very possible)'

A wild Capri from California found by @Fig Gazer and Eric D.
Both distributed it under different names. Hence the GxY/Yanonali.
 
TorontoJoe said:
Approximately how much sooner can one expect a pollinated fig to ripen vs one that’s not?
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Research shows that in some cases, they only ripen by a matter of days earlier. You may get a week or two max, but that is it. Anyone who says they ripen sooner than that is not being truthful or is misunderstanding something else going on, such as spoiling.

California has had caprified figs for over a hundred years and other places around the world have had caprified figs for thousands of years. If they ripened a month or more sooner, we would know. Commercial growers would be using that knowledge to bring figs to the market sooner.

I’m only commenting on that because someone, or a few, has been saying otherwise and it is extremely misleading.
 
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ETXfigs said:
I don't know if it's normal to have main crop caprified figs ripening this early. I pollinated a lot of figs. A few have ripened already but some of them don't look right. I picked these two today. Dr Gowaty and Violeta. The Violeta is small and doesn't look normal and didn't taste very good. The Dr Gowaty was very good.
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It’s not normal. 🙂 Wild pollinated figs take the same amount of time as non-pollinated figs for the most part.

Other people hand pollinating have had issues with spoiling or with fungus/bacteria. It can make the fig seem ripe when it isn’t. A bad taste is a sure indication of that. It could be something about the process or it could be something with the pollen.
 
RosyPosy said:
Research shows that in some cases, they only ripen by a matter of days earlier. You may get a week or two max, but that is it. Anyone who says they ripen sooner than that is not being truthful or is misunderstanding something else going on, such as spoiling.

California has had caprified figs for over a hundred years and other places around the world have had caprified figs for thousands of years. If they ripened a month or more sooner, we would know. Commercial growers would be using that knowledge to bring figs to the market sooner.

I’m only commenting on that because someone, or a few, has been saying that and it is extremely misleading.
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:unsure: I agree that I have only seen them ripen a week to two earlier max at my location with hand pollinating.
Most commercial growers are in areas with wasp growing figs that need wasp to ripen. So not sure how they would know one way or the other?
 
GoodFriendMike said:
:unsure: I agree that I have only seen them ripen a week to two earlier max at my location with hand pollinating.
Most commercial growers are in areas with wasp growing figs that need wasp to ripen. So not sure how they would know one way or the other?
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They would know just from them being wasp pollinated that they are ripening about the same amount of time as non-pollinated ones. Their ripening schedule is the same as areas without the wasp, accounting for weather differences.

In some places, they bring in caprifigs to the orchard for pollination, (which I know you know,) and so no doubt, they would see if figs are ripening earlier from pollination for any non-smyrna figs. And hand pollinating has been done for probably millennia too, certainly it’s been done since before the days of Condit, and I think they would notice if they were getting figs 6 weeks earlier.

Maybe Smyrna figs are the perfect example because they require pollination, but have the same ripening time as non-Smyrna figs.

In my area, only some of my figs are wasp pollinated, so I see it every year. The one thing that can have a bearing is the type of caprifig. Clearly, I don’t have any that are causing earlier ripening here, but I know in some academic papers, pollen from certain caprifigs caused earlier ripening by a few days I believe.
 
RosyPosy said:
They would know just from them being wasp pollinated that they are ripening about the same amount of time as non-pollinated ones. Their ripening schedule is the same as areas without the wasp, accounting for weather differences.

In some places, they bring in caprifigs to the orchard for pollination, (which I know you know,) and so no doubt, they would see if figs are ripening earlier from pollination for any non-smyrna figs. And hand pollinating has been done for probably millennia too, certainly it’s been done since before the days of Condit, and I think they would notice if they were getting figs 6 weeks earlier.

Maybe Smyrna figs are the perfect example because they require pollination, but have the same ripening time as non-Smyrna figs.

In my area, only some of my figs are wasp pollinated, so I see it every year. The one thing that can have a bearing is the type of caprifig. Clearly, I don’t have any that are causing earlier ripening here, but I know in some academic papers, pollen from certain caprifigs caused earlier ripening by a few days I believe.
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"They would know just from them being wasp pollinated that they are ripening about the same amount of time as non-pollinated ones." Many did not know the fig needed pollination.

"In some places, they bring in caprifigs to the orchard for pollination" Yes this is and was common practice in many areas.

"In my area, only some of my figs are wasp pollinated, so I see it every year. The one thing that can have a bearing is the type of caprifig."
In my area there is no wasp. I brought them in before as you know. But do not have them now. So can say for sure pollen does ripen figs a week or two earlier.

As far as pollen from different Capri having different effects. I have read and noticed this. But still not sure how you would test such a thing.
The pollen in so fine.
Well Valerie good talking. Two hours later here I believe. Night my my friend. :)
 
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