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DCallahan said:
I've got a 5 year old Galicia Negra, it's average production for me potted , But it does give good high quality ripened fruit. I'm going to graft up a couple nodes onto vigorous rootstock to see if the production increases.
I've got Neustra Senora de Carman that is 4-5 yrs old that's grafted onto Smith roots. That thing pumps out fruit and I've heard other growers say NSdC isn't the greatest producer for them. So encouraged to try experimenting with Galicia Negra.
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That’s a good idea. What rootstock would you recommend for maximum vigor? I’ve had similar experiences with NSdC and HdA.
 
ktrain said:
Couple good ones, a few years ago people were going nuts for Zaffiro.
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All the research I’ve done leads me to believe it’s a flavor profile that I would like, and I wanted to have a Khurtmani that I was confident is a true source.
 
DCallahan said:
Rootstock selection is a new venture for me but im going with two promising candidates. One is a Hydrid and the other shows a talent for vigor and early wakening.
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I’ve never grafted for this purpose. I’m going to need to think on what might make good candidates
 
Figjake said:
I’ll try the over fertilize technique. Maybe it’s just a heavier feeder and needs some extra food.
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this might be why mine is looking good. i had my wife (who has a CHEMISTRY DEGREE, and is much smarter than me so im sure its somehow my fault) make the fertilizer for that batch and instead of 1/4 as strong she made it 4x as strong. no ones died from that mistake it seems btw
 
TorontoJoe said:
I’ve never grafted for this purpose. I’m going to need to think on what might make good candidates
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I started a thread a couple weeks ago, for the purpose of rootstock selection. I was really looking to see if anyone had a bad experience with any specific variety but no one really stated problems with anything. My fear would be a variety that known of not taking or aborting a scion later on.
 
DCallahan said:
I started a thread a couple weeks ago, for the purpose of rootstock selection. I was really looking to see if anyone had a bad experience with any specific variety but no one really stated problems with anything. My fear would be a variety that known of not taking or aborting a scion later on.
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I wish I had more season and space to explore choosing rootstock for growth habit. Not only for vigor, but also for possible dwarfing if desired
 
DCallahan said:
I started a thread a couple weeks ago, for the purpose of rootstock selection. I was really looking to see if anyone had a bad experience with any specific variety but no one really stated problems with anything. My fear would be a variety that known of not taking or aborting a scion later on.
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I've always wondered why people don't use more Mt. Etnas as root stock.
Most of them seem pretty darn vigorous.
To me...an unexperienced person in that field...they would be a no brainer.
 
ktrain said:
I've always wondered why people don't use more Mt. Etnas as root stock.
Most of them seem pretty darn vigorous.
To me...an unexperienced person in that field...they would be a no brainer.
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Definitely worth exploring, My first thought would be that MT Etna's seem to wake a little late and go dormant early. So if the grafted variety is a long season cultivator it may work against the objective.
 
I guess it depends on your goals, rootstock availability and cost. Brown Turkey, Desert King, etc are vigorous and cheap/free. I think people think of Mt. Etnas as more of a compact growth habit. If you are wanting your Black Madeira to Hulk out then maybe a Mt Etna wouldn’t be the best choice. I have used Crozes before, if it can be considered an Mt. Etna because it grew crazy good for me. CLBC was a stud rootstock for me as well. I chose to root a bunch of DK this time around hoping it will continue to be vigorous in cooler weather. When I see those 30 foot monsters in Oregon and Washington, it gives me warm and fuzzy feelings.
 
IAK said:
I guess it depends on your goals, rootstock availability and cost. Brown Turkey, Desert King, etc are vigorous and cheap/free. I think people think of Mt. Etnas as more of a compact growth habit. If you are wanting your Black Madeira to Hulk out then maybe a Mt Etna wouldn’t be the best choice. I have used Crozes before, if it can be considered an Mt. Etna because it grew crazy good for me. CLBC was a stud rootstock for me as well. I chose to root a bunch of DK this time around hoping it will continue to be vigorous in cooler weather. When I see those 30 foot monsters in Oregon and Washington, it gives me warm and fuzzy feelings.
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Yeah definitely a lot to consider.
 
TorontoJoe said:
I wish I had more season and space to explore choosing rootstock for growth habit. Not only for vigor, but also for possible dwarfing if desired
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I think Dan has said Michael Grace Mystery grows in a compact (dwarfish?) nature? Cold hardy too which may kill 2 birds with 1 stone for you, my Canadian friend.
 
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