I will have to see if i have enough for good sized cuttings. I’m intentionally keeping it quite small since I want to graft it on my frankenfig tree and offload the potted plant. If you are also going to graft, we can definitely work something out. PM me?
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My understanding is all of the Smith traces back to Becnel?
LTCG
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Could do, dunno. He supposedly trialed many, kept detailed records, and can trace it back to them. I think he believes it’s a sport due to the differences over the other Smith’s that he was growing. I myself have not had much luck with Smith until I got this air layer and it has grown like a weed and produced some of the jammiest figs. It’s still young so looking forward to the coming years.
Jigfig
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I was told MJ’s was way more productive. I haven’t been able to see for myself as of yet, but was given mj’s and another smith cuttings to compare so the person seems confident.
Figgin' A
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IMHO, fig productivity depends a lot on how you grow it - climate, sun exposure, soil, ambient temps, nutrients, watering, etc.
In 2024, I rooted two Smith cuttings from different sources, one Canadian and one from a grower in NJ. Both were loaded with figs in the first year. In the second year, my Smith (I kept only one, the other one I gave away), had well over 200 figs on it.
Pics of my first-year Smith in 2024. I think it will easily give "mJS" a run for its money
Kompakfigs
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100%
Kompakfigs
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I rarely use synthetic fertilizers nor have a fertigation system but I still eat enough figs off of Smith MJS.
bushdoctor82
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New Jersey for the win!IMHO, fig productivity depends a lot on how you grow it - climate, sun exposure, soil, ambient temps, nutrients, watering, etc.
In 2024, I rooted two Smith cuttings from different sources, one Canadian and one from a grower in NJ. Both were loaded with figs in the first year. In the second year, my Smith (I kept only one, the other one I gave away), had well over 200 figs on it.
Pics of my first-year Smith in 2024. I think it will easily give "mJS" a run for its money
Kompakfigs
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Looks awesome.IMHO, fig productivity depends a lot on how you grow it - climate, sun exposure, soil, ambient temps, nutrients, watering, etc.
In 2024, I rooted two Smith cuttings from different sources, one Canadian and one from a grower in NJ. Both were loaded with figs in the first year. In the second year, my Smith (I kept only one, the other one I gave away), had well over 200 figs on it.
Pics of my first-year Smith in 2024. I think it will easily give "mJS" a run for its money
Cut this one today. Not bad for an almost Christmas fig?
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DELFIG
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That looks very good, however believe it or not if you watch MJFigs videos his are even more prolific.....IMHO, fig productivity depends a lot on how you grow it - climate, sun exposure, soil, ambient temps, nutrients, watering, etc.
In 2024, I rooted two Smith cuttings from different sources, one Canadian and one from a grower in NJ. Both were loaded with figs in the first year. In the second year, my Smith (I kept only one, the other one I gave away), had well over 200 figs on it.
Pics of my first-year Smith in 2024. I think it will easily give "mJS" a run for its money
I have MJFigs Smith rooting and grafts going right now.......I can't wait....
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Figjake
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I want to say this is one of the cuttings I got from Antonio “Figfather” when he had his sale.
DELFIG
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I believe the Figrfather sourced his cuttings from MJFigs.....
Figjake
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That’s why I grabbed that one from him. I’m pretty sure the cutting he sent was a log too. Most from him I got were on the thinner side. I will say out of all the ones I’ve purchased this month, Jack Ma, 387Pete, and Troy Priddy’s have been the best value and quality. I got a few expensive ones also, quality wise they were great but they were also terrible value. I need them to root so I can sell some airlayers and make my money back later in 2026
. Overall these best cuttings I’ve recieved this year were those Portugese ones. There was some friggin logs in there.
Figgin' A
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I have. I see a fig tree with figs at most nodes. Nothing unusual. His Smith has short internodes, creating an impression of very heavy fruiting, similar to what I had in the first year. His are smaller trees than mine in height. My second year Smith grew about 7.5 tall and 6 feet wide, with figs at every node on about 16 fruting branches. I don't know how you measure productivity, but getting over 200 (I counted roughly 230-240) from a second-year Smith in a pot is pretty darn productive in my book. Looking at his Smith trees, I didn't see one with that many figs.
We can keep arguing over this for a very long time, but I don't see the point, so I am going to end this here. We all choose to believe what we want, and interpret the data that we see how we want. "mjs" Smith sells at 2-3x the price of regular Smith. If one believes in its magical powers and feels the premium is justified for this 'super strain', well... it's their choice. But me, personally, I don't see anything special about it.
Some pics of my second year Smith Ordinaire, from a cutting I paid less than $10 for on FigBid.
DELFIG
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I agree with you....there is no difference.....just waiting for your reaction...hehe!.....you are so predictable my friend....very admirable when you try so hard to be right....I have. I see a fig tree with figs at most nodes. Nothing unusual. His Smith has short internodes, creating an impression of very heavy fruiting, similar to what I had in the first year. His are smaller trees than mine in height. My second year Smith grew about 7.5 tall and 6 feet wide, with figs at every node on about 16 fruting branches. I don't know how you measure productivity, but getting over 200 (I counted roughly 230-240) from a second-year Smith in a pot is pretty darn productive in my book. Looking at his Smith trees, I didn't see one with that many figs.
We can keep arguing over this for a very long time, but I don't see the point, so I am going to end this here. We all choose to believe what we want, and interpret the data that we see how we want. "mjs" Smith sells at 2-3x the price of regular Smith. If one believes in its magical powers and feels the premium is justified for this 'super strain', well... it's their choice. But me, personally, I don't see anything special about it.
Some pics of my second year Smith Ordinaire, from a cutting I paid less than $10 for on FigBid.
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LTCG
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I would agree, however, I think the one you have is special too. If you had two Smiths that hardly did anything, your opinion may be different. Me…I have 3 Smiths, one of which is the MJS…one is a year older than MJS and the other is the same. Care, ferts, water, etc all the same. The other two are just blah…not only in taste but in growth. Same for 3 ondata and 1 is a very aggressive grower and the other two are just meh. I also have 3 Peter’s Honey that seem to have different growth rates. You wouldn’t normally think there would be that much variability but I’m only 3 years into being serious about figs so still learning what works for me and my environment.