Crazy prices out there on cuttings, got to see this.

I see many cutting's and plant's/tree's going for high prices all the time. The older and more known fig people seem to get higher bids. And why not? I would rather spend $200 buying a known true cutting, than spend $20 and in a few years and plenty of time and money grow a tree that may or may not be true. Hope to see Lou make enough to pay for soil and fertilizer for this next season. But I do not think he will even break even.
 
GoodFriendMike said:
I see many cutting's and plant's/tree's going for high prices all the time. The older and more known fig people seem to get higher bids. And why not? I would rather spend $200 buying a known true cutting, than spend $20 and in a few years and plenty of time and money grow a tree that may or may not be true. Hope to see Lou make enough to pay for soil and fertilizer for this next season. But I do not think he will even break even.
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That's one way to look at it. Another way is that it's incredibly stupid to pay $200 for a cutting of Peter's Honey from one known seller when the exact same variety sells for $5 per cutting and $20 for a rooted cutting from other well-known growers/sellers like, say, JoePAFig.
 
Figgin' A said:
That's one way to look at it. Another way is that it's incredibly stupid to pay $200 for a cutting of Peter's Honey from one known seller when the exact same variety sells for $5 per cutting and $20 for a rooted cutting from other well-known growers/sellers like, say, JoePAFig.
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I am sure I have said this many of times. A cutting or tree's worth is only what someone is willing to pay. I would not call it stupid. If that person is happy with there purchase. It is worth it.
 
GoodFriendMike said:
I am sure I have said this many of times. A cutting or tree's worth is only what someone is willing to pay. I would not call it stupid. If that person is happy with there purchase. It is worth it.
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I can't argue with that. A cutting IS worth what someone is willing to pay, especially in the absence of comparables. That said, when two reputable sellers sell the same variety for $200 and $5, it IS, IMHO, stupid to pay $200 when you can have the same for $5.
 
GoodFriendMike said:
I am sure I have said this many of times. A cutting or tree's worth is only what someone is willing to pay. I would not call it stupid. If that person is happy with there purchase. It is worth it.
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Fruit collecting requires $...Depends on who you are and what you want. It may be $5, or it may be $500. Fruit tree, scion and cutting sellers are a net benefit to the world. Nothing and no one is perfect. There will always be trees that sell for more than they are worth. That's the price of participating sometimes. The exchange of fruit trees is a net benefit and this should always be remembered. Capitalism, though it has its faults is the best form of currency interaction. Sure, trading is great, but it's impossible to trade for everything you want. You need $, gold, or something someone else wants to participate.

So people can complain about $200 cuttings...and they are right.
People can be happy about $200 cuttings...and they are right.
There is no one perfect system, and there are an infinite amount of opinions.....

In the end, it's just fruit and it's just money. Fruit and money both come and go.

At least someone isn't spending $200 on drugs....it's $200 to grow some awesome fruit trees to feed themselves and their family tasty high quality nutrition.
 
rNexus said:
Fruit collecting requires $...Depends on who you are and what you want. It may be $5, or it may be $500. Fruit tree, scion and cutting sellers are a net benefit to the world. Nothing and no one is perfect. There will always be trees that sell for more than they are worth. That's the price of participating sometimes. The exchange of fruit trees is a net benefit and this should always be remembered. Capitalism, though it has its faults is the best form of currency interaction. Sure, trading is great, but it's impossible to trade for everything you want. You need $, gold, or something someone else wants to participate.

So people can complain about $200 cuttings...and they are right.
People can be happy about $200 cuttings...and they are right.
There is no one perfect system, and there are an infinite amount of opinions.....

In the end, it's just fruit and it's just money. Fruit and money both come and go.

At least someone isn't spending $200 on drugs....it's $200 to grow some awesome fruit trees to feed themselves and their family tasty high quality nutrition.
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Congrats on your Rosso win tonight
 
@Dreyenn thank you for reintroducing one of my favorite subjects. I love this subject, and frankly I just can't get enough of it. I will personally celebrate it's reintroduction by donating 40 cuttings of Peter's Honey to @TorontoJoe figfanatic community give away, for this coming dormancy... Freeeee for whoever wants it. I know it's a more popular variety than some of us may realize. Last January at a Scion exchange some kind person walked away with an entire large bag of a well known growers donated Angelito cuttings, and his (big bag) of perfectly beautiful WM#1 cuttings. I was quite surprised that my bag of 21 Peter's Honey cuttings vanished at the same moment.... I was proud to be included in such elite company. All three variety were likely sold, no one needs that many cuttings of the same type. Maybe fig cuttings will continue to escalate in value, like Bitcoin, and we will all become rich. 🤣😂🤣
 
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Figless said:
@Dreyenn thank you so much for reintroducing one of my favorite subjects. I love this subject, and frankly I just can't get enough of it. I will personally celebrate it's reintroduction by donating 40 cuttings of Peter's Honey
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Increased fruit tree sales = great.
Increased fruit tree giveaways = great
More fruit tree sales inspiring more giveaways = great

The love of $ and the dislike of $ are 2 sides of the same coin. A healthy culture has both and both are balanced by individual action and reaction.

More fruit in the world = GREAT.
 
rNexus said:
Fruit collecting requires $...Depends on who you are and what you want. It may be $5, or it may be $500. Fruit tree, scion and cutting sellers are a net benefit to the world. Nothing and no one is perfect. There will always be trees that sell for more than they are worth. That's the price of participating sometimes. The exchange of fruit trees is a net benefit and this should always be remembered. Capitalism, though it has its faults is the best form of currency interaction. Sure, trading is great, but it's impossible to trade for everything you want. You need $, gold, or something someone else wants to participate.

So people can complain about $200 cuttings...and they are right.
People can be happy about $200 cuttings...and they are right.
There is no one perfect system, and there are an infinite amount of opinions.....

In the end, it's just fruit and it's just money. Fruit and money both come and go.

At least someone isn't spending $200 on drugs....it's $200 to grow some awesome fruit trees to feed themselves and their family tasty high quality nutrition.
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"Fruit collecting requires $...Depends on who you are and what you want." Well said. Spent a lot to get what I have and spent more trying to keep them happy.
 
I must have nearly $$$ of soil, and fertilizer put away in square yard soil bags to keep my girls happy. Not to mention another $500 in planters... LOL I know just what those girls like...
 
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There's nothing wrong with money. Money is just ONE way to acquire and maintain what you want. Too many people are afraid of money. Too many people worship money. Best to try to live somewhere in the middle, and with an open mind.

What I want is a nice simple lifestyle filled with fruit and home grown goodness. I am grateful to people that sell high $ varieties. I am grateful to people that give away trees. Imagine how bland, boring and nutritionally devoid the world would be without both of those people.

Greedy sellers have helped me fulfill my lifestyle choice. Generous people have helped me fulfill my lifestyle choice. I appreciate both of them. No need to dislike greedy sellers because they raise prices. No need to dislike generous people because they lower prices. Both exist on the same spectrum and help to keep the balance. (FYI, I am both a 'greedy' seller and a generous person)

For example. If there were only generous people, not enough fruit trees could be grown and given away to satisfy the masses unless those generous people devoted 100% of their lives to that task. But why would they? Prices would plummet if everything was 'Free', and there would be no incentive for anyone else to attempt to build a business. Generous people would burn out, and there would be nothing..nothing to buy, nothing to get. Net fruit production and consumption would go down. It's draining to only be generous and never take care of yourself.

If there were only greedy people, prices would stay high. People would stop buying because the prices are too high. Collecting would be very minimal because no one could afford it. Greedy sellers wouldn't be making much money and therefore couldn't buy more varieties to sell. Net fruit production and consumption would go down.

I'm a bit tired and not being as clear as I should be, but I hope you can see the 2 sides. Both must exist together to create a thriving and healthy fruit eco system
 
Figless said:
Maybe fig cuttings will continue to escalate in value, like Bitcoin, and we will all become rich. 🤣😂🤣
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Good luck eating a digital currency. Bitcoin is a ponzi scheme. Fake as fake gets, created to transition all money to digital 100% controlled currency. Fruit trees are tangible, edible assets. Better to overpay and get something real, than overpay and get some digital confirmation you 'own' something.
 
Maybe some of our good members would like to participate in a Bitcoin giveaway. Here at Figless Farms we would truly appreciate a donation. Even if we cannot apparently eat them. 😂🤣
 
These cuttings prices are crazy for sure. I hope to break even so I’ve priced my stuff on figbid accordingly. Not to make myself rich but to pay myself back for the effort put into the trees, the money spent on supplies, so much sweat, blood, and tears going into the fig life. Some have cost me a pretty penny only to turn out Smyrna and be almost worthless, others I’ve made money back to cover the investment quickly. However the buyers have all got a bargain and I’ve broke even on several trees for a return. Still far in the red but I’m happy doing what I love. Some of my past hobbies were never able to bring in money so I was much farther in the red then 😂
 
Isn't it a bit early to harvest and sell cuttings? The trees haven't gone dormant yet. What's the rush?

I probably missed the memo. What's special about Lou's PH?
 
grasshopper said:
Isn't it a bit early to harvest and sell cuttings? The trees haven't gone dormant yet. What's the rush?

I probably missed the memo. What's special about Lou's PH?
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Depends on location. My Celeste and southern brown turkey among many others have dropped majority of leaves and next two weeks are the average first frost date
 
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