the biggest disparity between supply and demand

epiphyte

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on figtrades.ca you can sell all plants completely for free, but only if you live in canada. what about people in the united states? today i learned about a brand new website called overgrown oasis which is only for americans. you can sell all plants, but for a 10% fee.

recently my partner and i pooled our pennies and purchased 10 acres of old orange grove in central florida a bit south of orlando. there are quite a few empty spots in the grove, thanks to greening. let's say that i take my favorite trowel and plant a few dozen seedlings of my hybrid fig (opposita x carica). how long until i can be certain that the seedlings are resistant to root knot nematodes (rkn)? 3 years? what if rkn isn't even in the grove? hmmm... i should probably plant a carica seedling with each hybrid seedling. side-by-side comparisons are the best!

if the carica seedlings are demolished while the hybrid seedlings thrive, then what? i should give away my hybrid so i can be almost as cool as dr. jonas salk? giving stuff away seems so... charitable. but there's a very counterproductive problem with simply giving something away. we can't see the demand for it!

if dr. jonas salk had sold the vaccine for polio, how much money would he have made? we don't know. if he had only made a little, then evidently he spent a lot of brainpower barking up the wrong tree. if, on the other hand, he made a ton of money, then he definitely barked up the right tree. and then? lots of other really smart people would have been really motivated to bark up similar trees. the result: far more vaccines in far less time.

every fig fanatic should be an economics enthusiast.

what's the demand for rkn resistant figs? we don't know. we all see the occasional thread and post about it, we know it's something that at least some people want, but we don't know how badly they want it. we don't know how much money an honest to goodness rkn resistant fig would sell for on figbid or ebay.

is there any benefit to not knowing the demand for rkn resistant figs? nope.

the thing is, we don't need to wait to discern the demand for rkn resistance. we can find out now. all we need is the opportunity to donate to this forum for the creation of a category for rkn resistance. then it's a matter of comparing how much money is donated for other categories, such as black fig fly (bff)...

category for rkn resistance: $90 donated
category for bff resistance: $30 donated

side-by-side comparisons are the best!

this would inform us that rkn is a 3x bigger problem than bff. so we should devote 3x as much brainpower to rkn than to bff. and land. my partner just called me to say that we need to put golden kiwis on the list. i told her that i already have some small seedlings from seeds i sowed a few months back. kiwis probably aren't the best choice for central florida, but there are definitely plenty of fruit trees that would be really happy there. it's hard to say which is the best tree to plant. fact is, nobody benefits from the wrong trees being planted in central florida. nobody benefits when people bark up the wrong trees.

all over the world, all the time, countless people bark up the really wrong trees, simply because they have no choice but to try and guess the demand for things. it's the most serious squandering of brainpower. this wholesale waste of our most precious resource can easily be prevented. here, now, let's use our donations to see the demand for topics more or less related to figs. one small step for us, is also the biggest and most beneficial step for humanity.
 
on figtrades.ca you can sell all plants completely for free, but only if you live in canada. what about people in the united states? today i learned about a brand new website called overgrown oasis which is only for americans. you can sell all plants, but for a 10% fee.

recently my partner and i pooled our pennies and purchased 10 acres of old orange grove in central florida a bit south of orlando. there are quite a few empty spots in the grove, thanks to greening. let's say that i take my favorite trowel and plant a few dozen seedlings of my hybrid fig (opposita x carica). how long until i can be certain that the seedlings are resistant to root knot nematodes (rkn)? 3 years? what if rkn isn't even in the grove? hmmm... i should probably plant a carica seedling with each hybrid seedling. side-by-side comparisons are the best!

if the carica seedlings are demolished while the hybrid seedlings thrive, then what? i should give away my hybrid so i can be almost as cool as dr. jonas salk? giving stuff away seems so... charitable. but there's a very counterproductive problem with simply giving something away. we can't see the demand for it!

if dr. jonas salk had sold the vaccine for polio, how much money would he have made? we don't know. if he had only made a little, then evidently he spent a lot of brainpower barking up the wrong tree. if, on the other hand, he made a ton of money, then he definitely barked up the right tree. and then? lots of other really smart people would have been really motivated to bark up similar trees. the result: far more vaccines in far less time.

every fig fanatic should be an economics enthusiast.

what's the demand for rkn resistant figs? we don't know. we all see the occasional thread and post about it, we know it's something that at least some people want, but we don't know how badly they want it. we don't know how much money an honest to goodness rkn resistant fig would sell for on figbid or ebay.

is there any benefit to not knowing the demand for rkn resistant figs? nope.

the thing is, we don't need to wait to discern the demand for rkn resistance. we can find out now. all we need is the opportunity to donate to this forum for the creation of a category for rkn resistance. then it's a matter of comparing how much money is donated for other categories, such as black fig fly (bff)...

category for rkn resistance: $90 donated
category for bff resistance: $30 donated

side-by-side comparisons are the best!

this would inform us that rkn is a 3x bigger problem than bff. so we should devote 3x as much brainpower to rkn than to bff. and land. my partner just called me to say that we need to put golden kiwis on the list. i told her that i already have some small seedlings from seeds i sowed a few months back. kiwis probably aren't the best choice for central florida, but there are definitely plenty of fruit trees that would be really happy there. it's hard to say which is the best tree to plant. fact is, nobody benefits from the wrong trees being planted in central florida. nobody benefits when people bark up the wrong trees.

all over the world, all the time, countless people bark up the really wrong trees, simply because they have no choice but to try and guess the demand for things. it's the most serious squandering of brainpower. this wholesale waste of our most precious resource can easily be prevented. here, now, let's use our donations to see the demand for topics more or less related to figs. one small step for us, is also the biggest and most beneficial step four Humanity
 
on figtrades.ca you can sell all plants completely for free, but only if you live in canada. what about people in the united states? today i learned about a brand new website called overgrown oasis which is only for americans. you can sell all plants, but for a 10% fee.

recently my partner and i pooled our pennies and purchased 10 acres of old orange grove in central florida a bit south of orlando. there are quite a few empty spots in the grove, thanks to greening. let's say that i take my favorite trowel and plant a few dozen seedlings of my hybrid fig (opposita x carica). how long until i can be certain that the seedlings are resistant to root knot nematodes (rkn)? 3 years? what if rkn isn't even in the grove? hmmm... i should probably plant a carica seedling with each hybrid seedling. side-by-side comparisons are the best!

if the carica seedlings are demolished while the hybrid seedlings thrive, then what? i should give away my hybrid so i can be almost as cool as dr. jonas salk? giving stuff away seems so... charitable. but there's a very counterproductive problem with simply giving something away. we can't see the demand for it!

if dr. jonas salk had sold the vaccine for polio, how much money would he have made? we don't know. if he had only made a little, then evidently he spent a lot of brainpower barking up the wrong tree. if, on the other hand, he made a ton of money, then he definitely barked up the right tree. and then? lots of other really smart people would have been really motivated to bark up similar trees. the result: far more vaccines in far less time.

every fig fanatic should be an economics enthusiast.

what's the demand for rkn resistant figs? we don't know. we all see the occasional thread and post about it, we know it's something that at least some people want, but we don't know how badly they want it. we don't know how much money an honest to goodness rkn resistant fig would sell for on figbid or ebay.

is there any benefit to not knowing the demand for rkn resistant figs? nope.

the thing is, we don't need to wait to discern the demand for rkn resistance. we can find out now. all we need is the opportunity to donate to this forum for the creation of a category for rkn resistance. then it's a matter of comparing how much money is donated for other categories, such as black fig fly (bff)...

category for rkn resistance: $90 donated
category for bff resistance: $30 donated

side-by-side comparisons are the best!

this would inform us that rkn is a 3x bigger problem than bff. so we should devote 3x as much brainpower to rkn than to bff. and land. my partner just called me to say that we need to put golden kiwis on the list. i told her that i already have some small seedlings from seeds i sowed a few months back. kiwis probably aren't the best choice for central florida, but there are definitely plenty of fruit trees that would be really happy there. it's hard to say which is the best tree to plant. fact is, nobody benefits from the wrong trees being planted in central florida. nobody benefits when people bark up the wrong trees.

all over the world, all the time, countless people bark up the really wrong trees, simply because they have no choice but to try and guess the demand for things. it's the most serious squandering of brainpower. this wholesale waste of our most precious resource can easily be prevented. here, now, let's use our donations to see the demand for topics more or less related to figs. one small step for us, is also the biggest and most beneficial step for humanity.
@epiphyte did you really buy 10 acres of Old Orange Grove in Florida? That would be so wonderful if you did.
 
on figtrades.ca you can sell all plants completely for free, but only if you live in canada. what about people in the united states? today i learned about a brand new website called overgrown oasis which is only for americans. you can sell all plants, but for a 10% fee.

recently my partner and i pooled our pennies and purchased 10 acres of old orange grove in central florida a bit south of orlando. there are quite a few empty spots in the grove, thanks to greening. let's say that i take my favorite trowel and plant a few dozen seedlings of my hybrid fig (opposita x carica). how long until i can be certain that the seedlings are resistant to root knot nematodes (rkn)? 3 years? what if rkn isn't even in the grove? hmmm... i should probably plant a carica seedling with each hybrid seedling. side-by-side comparisons are the best!

if the carica seedlings are demolished while the hybrid seedlings thrive, then what? i should give away my hybrid so i can be almost as cool as dr. jonas salk? giving stuff away seems so... charitable. but there's a very counterproductive problem with simply giving something away. we can't see the demand for it!

if dr. jonas salk had sold the vaccine for polio, how much money would he have made? we don't know. if he had only made a little, then evidently he spent a lot of brainpower barking up the wrong tree. if, on the other hand, he made a ton of money, then he definitely barked up the right tree. and then? lots of other really smart people would have been really motivated to bark up similar trees. the result: far more vaccines in far less time.

every fig fanatic should be an economics enthusiast.

what's the demand for rkn resistant figs? we don't know. we all see the occasional thread and post about it, we know it's something that at least some people want, but we don't know how badly they want it. we don't know how much money an honest to goodness rkn resistant fig would sell for on figbid or ebay.

is there any benefit to not knowing the demand for rkn resistant figs? nope.

the thing is, we don't need to wait to discern the demand for rkn resistance. we can find out now. all we need is the opportunity to donate to this forum for the creation of a category for rkn resistance. then it's a matter of comparing how much money is donated for other categories, such as black fig fly (bff)...

category for rkn resistance: $90 donated
category for bff resistance: $30 donated

side-by-side comparisons are the best!

this would inform us that rkn is a 3x bigger problem than bff. so we should devote 3x as much brainpower to rkn than to bff. and land. my partner just called me to say that we need to put golden kiwis on the list. i told her that i already have some small seedlings from seeds i sowed a few months back. kiwis probably aren't the best choice for central florida, but there are definitely plenty of fruit trees that would be really happy there. it's hard to say which is the best tree to plant. fact is, nobody benefits from the wrong trees being planted in central florida. nobody benefits when people bark up the wrong trees.

all over the world, all the time, countless people bark up the really wrong trees, simply because they have no choice but to try and guess the demand for things. it's the most serious squandering of brainpower. this wholesale waste of our most precious resource can easily be prevented. here, now, let's use our donations to see the demand for topics more or less related to figs. one small step for us, is also the biggest and most beneficial step for humanity.
This video he tells you in Florida how to plant fig trees to avoid RKN.

 
I’ve tried comparing RKN vs BFF in the past. In the most simplest of terms, RKN will kill (or diminish) your tree while BFF will kill (or diminish) the fruit of the tree.

I’d bet that having a true RKN resistant fig tree would be in demand… for fig growers in certain parts of the country.

If you’re serious in your planting ideas, either sample the soil to determine the concentration of RKN present in the soil or plant annuals to determine the presence of RKN. I’ve noticed RKN galls within 1 growing season on some of my inground fig trees. I’d guess it would take multiple years growing in known RKN infested soil to begin to make a claim as being RKN resistant though.
 
@Figless yup, i officially own an old orange grove in florida. going to visit it for the 1st time this march to plant some of my hybrid figs.

@Figgerlickinggood, thanks for sharing that video, but i'm skeptical that rkn is so shallow.

@bushdoctor82 what about the demand for rkn resistant figs outside of the country? how many people in the tropics around the world would be interested in easily growing figs?

i'm like a dog barking up a tree because i'm guessing that there's a big squirrel in it. but really we should use donations to clearly expose all the squirrels in trees.
 
@Figless yup, i officially own an old orange grove in florida. going to visit it for the 1st time this march to plant some of my hybrid figs.

@Figgerlickinggood, thanks for sharing that video, but i'm skeptical that rkn is so shallow.

@bushdoctor82 what about the demand for rkn resistant figs outside of the country? how many people in the tropics around the world would be interested in easily growing figs?

i'm like a dog barking up a tree because i'm guessing that there's a big squirrel in it. but really we should use donations to clearly expose all the squirrels in trees.
I have heard that can be spread throughout an area by working the soil incorrectly Was this you @bushdoctor82 ?
 
@Figless yup, i officially own an old orange grove in florida. going to visit it for the 1st time this march to plant some of my hybrid figs.

@Figgerlickinggood, thanks for sharing that video, but i'm skeptical that rkn is so shallow.

@bushdoctor82 what about the demand for rkn resistant figs outside of the country? how many people in the tropics around the world would be interested in easily growing figs?

i'm like a dog barking up a tree because i'm guessing that there's a big squirrel in it. but really we should use donations to clearly expose all the squirrels in trees.
If it’s an issue in other parts of the world, then yes, you are correct. I just don’t have any reference or understanding outside of the US.

@Figless - yes, I am/was the dope that most likely spread RKN throughout my yard. However, I would note it was done haphazardly, not incorrectly.
 
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