Propagating persimmon from cuttings?

@TorontoJoe Sorry for this belated response. I tried to root some extra persimmon scions in August in a similar fashion to rooting figs. (The cuttings had been taken in the winter.) They were started under a humidity dome. Some grew leaves and one even put out a short branch. But after about a month the leaves shriveled and died. When I pulled the scions up none had any roots. So it seems that the growth was just from energy stored in the scion itself. Grafting is what is recommended by people who know about persimmons. Did you have any success with yours?
 
Saw-whet said:
@TorontoJoe tried to root some extra persimmon scions in August in a similar fashion to rooting figs. (The cuttings had been taken in the winter.) They were started under a humidity dome. Some grew leaves and one even put out a short branch. But after about a month the leaves shriveled and died. When I pulled the scions up none had any roots. So it seems that the growth was just from energy stored in the scion itself.
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What was the temperature and humidity within the humidity dome?
 
Spectrum said:
What was the temperature and humidity within the humidity dome?
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I don't know specifically. They were inside but out of the sun. It was warm, probably 80s during the day. Once they formed leaves I put them on a window sill without the dome. Have you been able to root persimmon scions?
 
@TorontoJoe Answering the original post, persimmon isn't as fast rooting as fig, and will require management for however long it takes. Humidity high enough to promote rooting and delay dehydration so the cells don't die then rot, but low enough not to grow mold needs to be maintained for as long as required.

Pear, apple, walnut, mulberry, kiwi, pomegranate and plum have all rooted from hardwood and softwood cuttings. Some took a year. Green goumi cuttings started in August are still holding their green half-leaves under a dome. Goumi hardwood cuttings started in November have new growth but will remain under dome until consistent rapid growth is observed. Apricot cuttings are starting their journey today in a Costco lettuce tub under a 7" dome.
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Has anyone tried nighttime UV mold suppression? If successful, it would allow higher humidity for longer periods.
 
Spectrum said:
@TorontoJoe Answering the original post, persimmon isn't as fast rooting as fig, and will require management for however long it takes. Humidity high enough to promote rooting and delay dehydration so the cells don't die then rot, but low enough not to grow mold needs to be maintained for as long as required.

Pear, apple, walnut, mulberry, kiwi, pomegranate and plum have all rooted from hardwood and softwood cuttings. Some took a year. Green goumi cuttings started in August are still holding their green half-leaves under a dome. Goumi hardwood cuttings started in November have new growth but will remain under dome until consistent rapid growth is observed. Apricot cuttings are starting their journey today in a Costco lettuce tub under a 7" dome.
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Has anyone tried nighttime UV mold suppression? If successful, it would allow higher humidity for longer periods.
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Very impressive!
 
Spectrum said:
@TorontoJoe Answering the original post, persimmon isn't as fast rooting as fig, and will require management for however long it takes. Humidity high enough to promote rooting and delay dehydration so the cells don't die then rot, but low enough not to grow mold needs to be maintained for as long as required.

Pear, apple, walnut, mulberry, kiwi, pomegranate and plum have all rooted from hardwood and softwood cuttings. Some took a year. Green goumi cuttings started in August are still holding their green half-leaves under a dome. Goumi hardwood cuttings started in November have new growth but will remain under dome until consistent rapid growth is observed. Apricot cuttings are starting their journey today in a Costco lettuce tub under a 7" dome.
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Has anyone tried nighttime UV mold suppression? If successful, it would allow higher humidity for longer periods.
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Up to a year?!!!

By that, do you mean that it either showed no growth (but no signs of decline), or that it did push a bud, but no roots appeared for a year?
 
BucksCountyFigs said:
Up to a year?!!!

By that, do you mean that it either showed no growth (but no signs of decline), or that it did push a bud, but no roots appeared for a year?
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Yes, no growth nor signs of decline for 15 months before bud swell.

Also yes to vegetation but no root-indicative rapid progression for 18 months until summer #2.

Patience/neglect and large sample size can be helpful.
 
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