Long Yellow

I’m not sure which yellow long fig you are interested in. My yellow long neck is pretty early, but my Chios Yellow Long from NJ Fig Farm is on the late side.
 
@"Figgerlickinggood"#7. Long yellow neck is a distinctly different variety then the yellow long neck, and possible synonyms. I've always wanted one of those cuttings, surprisingly they're not that easy to get a hold of. I'm going to edit this in a few minutes. Sounds like somebody's shooting off a gun a few blocks away, and it's definitely not fireworks. The good news is they've stopped shooting. The bad news is I can't find anything on Long yellow neck anymore. There never was a lot of information on this distinctly different variety, but I can't seem to find anything when I look right now. Teresa I can't tell you whether it's an early or late producer. I'm very sorry.
 
@"Figology"#21 . I (liked) your post to show my extreme respect for your opinion. Growing all three variety side by side certainly gives great veracity to your observations, and opinion. 

Still I believe there is some room for a UCR designated variety named long yellow neck. This controversy certainly goes back farther than 2018. Here is a copy of a post by Romeo dating to 2018 when a first-year moderator of another online forum was also growing side by side comparisons of two of these three varieties. I wonder about long yellow neck due to a UCR varieties comparison that points out subtle, but real differences in the structure of long yellow neck compared to Yellow long neck, golden Riverside, and golden rainbow. Harvey also says his variety is different than Ben's. I am quoting comments that are 6 years old from another online platform. 

I invite any mod to delete this post, because it would take all day quoting controversial post from 6 years or more that I do not have time today to accurately quote. It's not the difference i in leaves fruit color or flavor that leads me to suggest that there may be a (long yellow neck UCR variety) that is different then yellow long neck, golden riverside, and golden rainbow. What leads me to say this, old side by side video comparisons that show definite differences in the physical structure of the neck of the fruit of long yellow neck UCR variety. Physical differences in the neck might not be attributable to caprification, or climate differences. Long yellow neck is rarely described online. There could be more confusion on Long yellow neck. Then other similar, or synonyms of yellow long neck. Here's a copy paste quote from another platform dated 2018. As I said before please delete this if it's going to cause trouble. This is dated from 2018.

"My BGR came from a very reputable fig collector this past spring, long before it was on anyone's radar. He received his directly from Ben. When mine began to ripen figs, I verified the fig shape, color, texture, and fig leaf shape with Ben's post as well as other posts."

"I also have a 5 yr UCR 278-128, direct from UCR, which was originally nicknamed Golden Riverside. I studied the leaves, tasted the fig.
My conclusion... these are two different varieties, with completely different leaves, figs, and taste profiles."
 
I appreciate the discussion and recognize that climate and location could certainly impact the time of ripening of any fruit. Plus mistakes can be made in any collection-UCR or not, so that could also be part of the problem. I notice that the figs are behaving differently this year, very late. I have three different varieties that may be the Yellow Long Neck.  One is called Golden Riverside, but has not fruited, one is called "Diana" and was a medium, not early this season ripening fig for us this year. There is still one fruit on the tree, don't see any new ones forming but that could also change. I also have one called "Turquesa" which I think is a rename of Yellow Long Neck. I also had a "Long Yellow" from a fairly reputable source but the gophers took it away so no longer have it to compare to. I have seen some saying that these are all the same, but depending on the source and how careful the source is to notice differences, I think there is a distinct possibility that these are not all the same, we will have to keep trying to compare them to know for certain. I seem to have difficulty getting to these before the critters so they do have their fans. A funny thing happened last year, one of the "Diana " trees developed pink stripes on its fruit, but only one of them, so that is a new mystery. I have not seen that this year. :-/ I would like to see a "Long Yellow" to compare it, but have not seen them around. There is a thread on the other forum from this year , May that has a lot of people's experiences with the different Yellow honey type figs. Called "YLN/Yellow Long Neck is it any good?
 
@figless no need to fear. Notice I said they were all the same for “me”? 

It’s nearly impossible to do a DNA test on all three varieties unless there’s a guarantee of original source which might not be possible. Someone else could have the same three or a combination of another 3.
 
@Figology, LOL I wouldn't have said a word except Theresa mentioned long yellow neck, instead of yellow long neck. I can't believe we're back into this subject. When you were absolutely right when you said it's just impossible to get it correct answer even with genetic testing. You're probably the closest thing we have to a true expert on fig varieties. I just wanted to say that long yellow neck might actually exist. I didn't want to dig down to the North Pole when we all know the figtator has Santa Claus home ported in Tennessee. LOL apologies to all...
 
@figless thank you, I’m by no means an expert but rightfully admit I’m very clever and excellent at researching. 

At any rate, I’m not into keeping multiple fig varieties that taste the same. That it probably why I don’t have very many “Etna” types. 

I’ve seen variation of the same variety grown from an airlayer that is different than the mother tree. It’s very hard to tell if someone’s description is valid with no DNA to back it up.
 
I don't have any experience with it. 
I had YLN a couple years ago, but I found out the large figs are just prone to splitting here even with just the high humidity.
So I got rid of them.
 
@"Figgerlickinggood"#7 ggood. Teresa if this is the videos I think they are I am utterly grateful for you finding, and posting them. I had forgotten lt was Lou Monte who made those comparison videos. If I remember they were really good. I will go to bed tonight listening to them. Thank you again.
 
@"Figgerlickinggood"#7. Thank you Teresa I was able to look at both videos, and they are the videos I remember that showed the differences in the structure of the neck of long yellow neck variety. The neck is clearly different than golden Riverside and yellow long neck. The leaves are also different long yellow neck is a completely different variety. Thank you so much for posting this video. I would have been forever trying to find it again.
 
I respect and know people have their own opinion on the matter.

I agree with Ross when he says this debate doesn't really matter because it's not the end all be all fig. Long Yellow and YLN may or may not be the same fig, but they're close enough, and for me, not the top fig in any given category.   

Here are some videos that show the gamut of leaf shapes Yellow Long Neck can have which include those of Lou's Long Yellow.


(sorry for hijacking your post Teresa)
 
@Figology. I was right on it sir. It's quite clear that the Leaf shape difference is absolutely non-definitive we've all had figs that have had Spade shape leaves that grow into three, or five lobed leafs as they mature. My basic problem is twofold 1 is that anybody arguing for all three being the same lacked the essential long yellow neck for the comparison. My second objection was that as Ross went on, and on i was forced to drink a few ice cold beers in self-defense. None of these videos seems to have a UCR sourced long yellow neck variety to compare golden rainbow, and yellow long neck. We will have to watch Lou Monte video once again to see where he mentions his long yellow neck source being from.



On another note someone at my house definitively suggested Ross has to be right because he has no real reason to mislead us and how could he possibly make a mistake about any of this? Whether he can produce a long yellow neck or not he has tasted thousands of varieties of figs, and not likely to make a mistake. Oh my God now I need another beer.
 
@"Figless"#18  You cannot be right on it, any proof Lou has is pure speculation. Who’s to say his fig was Long Yellow and not another unknown? The rabbit hole can go deeper the more we speculate. 

As far as none of them having the correct UCR YLN for comparison, you stand corrected as Harvey’s YLN is directly from UCR via George Emerich.

YLN was given to Edgar Valdivia then Harvey.
 
Figless said:
@Figology. I was right on it sir. It's quite clear that the Leaf shape difference is absolutely non-definitive we've all had figs that have had Spade shape leaves that grow into three, or five lobed leafs as they mature. My basic problem is twofold 1 is that anybody arguing for all three being the same lacked the essential long yellow neck for the comparison. My second objection was that as Ross went on, and on i was forced to drink a few ice cold beers in self-defense. None of these videos seems to have a UCR sourced long yellow neck variety to compare golden rainbow, and yellow long neck. We will have to watch Lou Monte video once again to see where he mentions his long yellow neck source being from.



On another note someone at my house definitively suggested Ross has to be right because he has no real reason to mislead us and how could he possibly make a mistake about any of this? Whether he can produce a long yellow neck or not he has tasted thousands of varieties of figs, and not likely to make a mistake. Oh my God now I need another beer.
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@"Figless"#18  one other difference Lou Monte mentioned other then leaf shapes were different was the fact that the “stems” were also different.  Long Yellow has a very long stem, YLN has a short stem but a long “neck”.  Leaves may change with age but not stems and necks.  Lou mentioned he was gifted his Long Yellow from his friend Vito from upper New York State.  He’s very knowledgeable of fig varieties and fig growing.
 
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