Breeding and Caprifigs.

GoodFriendMike

GoodFriendMike

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It seems we are very short on great Capri for breeding. For years we have bred and kept the best female figs. But not the Capri. It is only in recent times that we have started to breed for better Caprifigs. Some countries are breeding for new and better varieties as we speak. To produce better figs for the future. We need the best females and the best Capri.
 
I’d be interested in helping with a section greenhouse for caprifig evaluation. I currently only have Yonanali gxy and Saleeb. (I have a couple wild caprifigs I will hopefully be able to evaluate next year - currentlymrootedncuttings).

Let me known what I can do thin pitch in
 
LSU dc2 main to be ripe any day now! I’ll save back some good seedlings off my own, also sending out seeds to whoever wants to grow them and maybe we can get a decent variety of new persistent capri figs within the next few years.

What qualities are you recommending we look for so the community will know how to judge a good capri from a bad capri
 
Very interesting topic. With such generic diversity in common figs I assume the same applies with caprifigs. As such I'd think different caprifigs would produce different outcomes affecting size,color, taste, nutrition, and productivity of the caprified figs.
Probably someone, somewhere must have pollinated the same tree with pollen from different caprifigs to see if there's significant phenotypic variation from different genotypes.
Additionally, vice versa, would some Capri figs be a better "match" with a certain common fig over another? That's to say would one tree have better results over another even tho they are pollinated with the same caprifig?
I think the weeds are getting thick now ...
 
sykofan said:
Very interesting topic. With such generic diversity in common figs I assume the same applies with caprifigs. As such I'd think different caprifigs would produce different outcomes affecting size,color, taste, nutrition, and productivity of the caprified figs.
Probably someone, somewhere must have pollinated the same tree with pollen from different caprifigs to see if there's significant phenotypic variation from different genotypes.
Additionally, vice versa, would some Capri figs be a better "match" with a certain common fig over another? That's to say would one tree have better results over another even tho they are pollinated with the same caprifig?
I think the weeds are getting thick now ...
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"With such generic diversity in common figs I assume the same applies with caprifigs. As such I'd think different caprifigs would produce different outcomes affecting size,color, taste, nutrition, and productivity of the caprified figs." This is true. Not sure about the nutrition part.
 
"What qualities are you recommending we look for so the community will know how to judge a good capri from a bad capri" Depends on what you want to breed for. But most would look for things like. How productive it is. How small of an eye on main crop, Pollen amount, Size of fig, Color of fig. Cold tolerance. If looking for as Phil would say "Waspy Capri" Are they reliable with overlaping crops? Do they produce a good amount of all three crops. Lots to think about. But in the end it is as I said what you want to breed for. Also remember many will want to breed for the same things as you.
 
Been a long day. But I believe I should add to this. There are a few countries still with breeding projects. Some collecting our Capri to use. I know this because I sent some on my dime. But I have refused certain countries. For now it seems as tho we are as I was called by David. Backyard scientist. Nothing wrong with that. Personally I like it. No one to report to. But as I have said. If we put aside our differences we can learn more. I will hopefully add more to this conversation tomorrow. Sore and tired. But lots to think about. Breed them :)
 
Bofig said:
LSU dc2 main to be ripe any day now! I’ll save back some good seedlings off my own, also sending out seeds to whoever wants to grow them and maybe we can get a decent variety of new persistent capri figs within the next few years.

What qualities are you recommending we look for so the community will know how to judge a good capri from a bad capri
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Hey Bofig, do you have any extra seeds this year? I would love a few if so. I have several varieties of persistent caprifigs growing but none produced yet this year maybe next. I did do some hand pollinating but was using pollen from a wild Capri and from what I've read and been told the partthenocarpic gene is passed from the father. I started a few from unk pastiliere this year and they are sprouting but basically no chance they will be common.
 
sykofan said:
Very interesting topic. With such generic diversity in common figs I assume the same applies with caprifigs. As such I'd think different caprifigs would produce different outcomes affecting size,color, taste, nutrition, and productivity of the caprified figs.
Probably someone, somewhere must have pollinated the same tree with pollen from different caprifigs to see if there's significant phenotypic variation from different genotypes.
Additionally, vice versa, would some Capri figs be a better "match" with a certain common fig over another? That's to say would one tree have better results over another even tho they are pollinated with the same caprifig?
I think the weeds are getting thick now ...
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The fig hunter downunder has told me that pollen from different Capri will affect each pollenated fig differently. Two figs on the same tree pollenated by different Capri might have different ripen times, sizes, ect.
 
Dbox said:
I’d be interested in helping with a section greenhouse for caprifig evaluation. I currently only have Yonanali gxy and Saleeb. (I have a couple wild caprifigs I will hopefully be able to evaluate next year - currentlymrootedncuttings).

Let me known what I can do thin pitch in
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What is Yonanali gxy? Is it a persistent caprifig?
 
Aaron R said:
Hey Bofig, do you have any extra seeds this year? I would love a few if so. I have several varieties of persistent caprifigs growing but none produced yet this year maybe next. I did do some hand pollinating but was using pollen from a wild Capri and from what I've read and been told the partthenocarpic gene is passed from the father. I started a few from unk pastiliere this year and they are sprouting but basically no chance they will be common.
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I’ve got tons of seed just send a pm and we can figure out something
 
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