Persistent Capri

GoodFriendMike

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LSU C-1 Not truly a LSU fig. But a California fig used at LSU for breeding.
LSU C-2
LSU DC-2
LSU DC-6
LSU DC-7
LSU L55-13-39 Bred with celeste and created LSU gold. Some believe it is C1
Capri Q
Saleeb
Enderud
347-1
Croisic Father of the persistent Capri In the US? Some including me believe yes.
Others believe Kearney which from studies had no parthenocarpic seedlings.
K11-7W
T 30E / K-11-30-E
K16-32W
UCD Found by treesofparadise And found to be persistent by GFM
FPTC A wild Capri from California found to be persistent by GFM
Mersin 06
Osmaniye 02
St. Anthony PC
TFH-292 Profichi found to be persistent by GFM. Mammoni ripened beyond the normal dropping point and I believe to be persistent.
But of course the local wildlife did not want me to prove it. :)
I know I missed some. Will add them later. Additions or correction's please message me.
 
Oh gotcha I’m not sure if I’ll get mains to ripen in time. Maybe I’ll bring a small one indoors this winter to do the testing of wild #1
 
Bofig said:
Oh gotcha I’m not sure if I’ll get mains to ripen in time. Maybe I’ll bring a small one indoors this winter to do the testing of wild #1
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That will help determine it.
Many believe if it ripens profichi it is persistent. But that only means that crop is persistent. It will not create common females if bred.
 
GoodFriendMike said:
That will help determine it.
Many believe if it ripens profichi it is persistent. But that only means that crop is persistent. It will not create common females if bred.
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So essentially we need more testing to see if it’s equal to female San Pedro or equal to a female common?
 
A few others that may be persistent.
GXY - Has persistent profichi.
Black Capri from Bass.
TFH-292 - I ripened profichi last year.
Girsh Park - Not sure on this one. It ripens some and drops some.
Caprifig 6085
Quite a few others will be found. Even faster now that others are starting to trial
them as well.
 
grasshopper said:
Not sure how they draw the conclusion based on observation and what was being observed. In that dubious state, it is probably best to consider it unknown in terms of persistence.
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That's why I have not added it to the list yet. I have not seen or heard anything yet proving it
one way or the other.
 
@GoodFriendMike, as I understand it by reading some of the posts in this forum, you are trying to maintain/publish a list of persistent Caprifigs.
If that is the case, what criteria you would use to enter a new tree in your list?

The reason behind my question is that I have a caprifig on my property and few more wild ones in a nearby wash. I am wondering if any would be a candidate.

As I mentioned in previous posts, the one on my property had a decent profichi crop that ripened albeit a major infestation of BFF. It developed a small mammoni crop that started to ripen.
I examined few ripe figs and I did not observe any presence of wasp (galls). The pulp is soft, gelatinous, and somewhat sweet. I would not consider it edible by human though.

See attached pictures I took few days ago.
 

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Miloush said:
@GoodFriendMike, as I understand it by reading some of the posts in this forum, you are trying to maintain/publish a list of persistent Caprifigs.
If that is the case, what criteria you would use to enter a new tree in your list?

The reason behind my question is that I have a caprifig on my property and few more wild ones in a nearby wash. I am wondering if any would be a candidate.

As I mentioned in previous posts, the one on my property had a decent profichi crop that ripened albeit a major infestation of BFF. It developed a small mammoni crop that started to ripen.
I examined few ripe figs and I did not observe any presence of wasp (galls). The pulp is soft, gelatinous, and somewhat sweet. I would not consider it edible by human though.

See attached pictures I took few days ago.
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If the Caprifig ripens all the crops it produces with out the presence of wasp. It should be what we consider a persistent Capri. Some have a persistent crop but the other crop or crops drop with out the wasp. Those trees are not truly persistent.
 
That is certainly clear in the case when it is well known that BF is totally absent (cooler regions for instance).
However, in the situation where the wasp is prevalent or has been observed (like in my area), it would be very difficult to determine that a certain caprifig is persistent. In other words, we can't tell, through observation, if a caprifig ripens or retains some syconia from all its crops because of wasps visitation or because a genetic trait/mutation.
One would have to do some elaborate experimentation to reach an accurate conclusion.
Am I missing something?
 
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